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Keys open doors, Ceilings and floors

Jim Stefani came up with an interesting post on the GoBlueWolverine forums regarding the ceilings and floors of recruits. High ceiling types are those who have virtualy limitless potential, and can be absolute stars if they live up to said potential. Guys with high floors might be able to come in and contribute right away, and are college-ready.

These two concepts likely correlate, but this is not always the case. Guys who are adjusting to new positions in college, etc. might not be able to contribute right away, but once they make the adjustments, are able to shine. I, on the other hand, would be a very low ceiling and floor guy.

Rankings will be given on a 1-5 basis for both ceiling and floor, with 5 being the best, and 1 the worst. a 3-3 would be your average recruit, 5-5 would be your top-top players. A 1 for ceiling doesn't mean that a certain player can't contribute, as long as the floor is high. I apologize in advance for all the guru-isms I'm about to spout.

Ryan Mallett
Floor:5 Ceiling:5.
Enrolling early will really help his floor, and he has a strong arm and the size to be one of the all-time greats.

Donovan Warren
Floor:5 Ceiling:4
Very polished, but doesn't have that elite speed to have limitless potential.

Vince Helmuth
Floor: 4 Ceiling:3
Again, enrolling early can only help with floor level. A fullback can only have so much potential for greatness.

Dave Molk

Floor: 4 Ceiling:2
He has a lot of the qualities you look for in an offensive lineman, but doesn't have the ideal height required of high-potential guys.

Michael Williams

Floor:4 Ceiling:4
Fairly polished, not an elite physical specimen.

Ryan VanBergen

Floor:2 Ceiling:4
He could be really good, or he could be Pat Massey.

Toney Clemons

Floor:2 Ceiling:5
Outstanding athlete, but raw, raw, raw as a receiver.

Steve Watson
Floor:5 Ceiling:1
Not a great athlete, but he comes in very polished as a coach's son.

Martell Webb

Floor:2 Ceiling:5
He has to learn two positions, and find his role, but he has the physical tools to be a great tight end OR receiver.

James Rogers

Floor:1 Ceiling:4
Seems to be a much more natural safety than receiver, but in terms of position skills, he is rather raw.

Brandon Herron

Floor:1 Ceiling:5
An elite physical specimen who couldn't really translate his skills into results on the field in high school.

J.R. Hemingway

Floor:4 Ceiling:3
Doesn't possess great top-top speed, but has good hands, and could pan out to be another Jason Avant-like player.

Zion Babb

Floor:1 Ceiling:5
A great athlete, but he will probably be moved to defensive back, which he wil have to learn as it is not his favored position.

Austin Panter

Floor:4 Ceiling:3
Already playing college (of the junior variety) ball, I'd be surprised if he isn't well polished, but he doesn't seem like an off-the-charts athlete.

Marell Evans

Floor:1 Ceiling:4
Another guy who is switching positions (high school safety, college WLB). Can he make the necessary adjustments to be a good one?

Artis Chambers

Floor:2 Ceiling:3
Another non-elite athlete who can hopefully contribute. Floor bumped up 1 point for early enrollment.

Troy Woolfolk

Floor:1 Ceiling:5
Fast fast fast, but is he going to be able to improve his pure cover-corner skills enough to turn that potential into results?

Avery Horn

Floor:2 Ceiling:5
Fast fast fast, but is he going to be able to improve his pure RB skills enough to turn that potential into results?

Mark Huyge

Floor:1 Ceiling:5
Such a project player, you have to think he has great upside to be going to a top-notch football school like Michigan.

Renaldo Sagesse

Floor:1 Ceiling:4
Canadian guys always seem to have a tough time adjusting. He has good measurables for the position, though.

Obviously most of the guys we missed out on are going to be 5-5 guys, though I'd peg Rojo os a Floor:4 Ceiling:6 guy, with off the chart potential.


“Keys open doors, Ceilings and floors”

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  2. Blogger heb Says:

    Sagesse is definitely a high cieling (5) guy. He has tremendous size, quickness, agility and speed for a DT. He may never pan out, but he definitely has a very high ceiling.

  3. Blogger RJHOVE Says:

    you were off on mallet

  4. Blogger Tim Says:

    For a true freshman with the suporting cast he had, he did about as well as he could. Maybe floor of 4 would have been more appropriate.